Sunday, July 01, 2012

Chicago Police Officers and Firefighters are now working without a contract - Contracts expired 6/30/2012

Get ready to get screwed by Rahm & Company.....

The clock runs out on Chicago's Police Department and Fire Department union contracts Saturday night, but don't expect any difference in how cops and firefighters respond to emergencies around the city if the deal remains unresolved.

Both unions are prohibited from striking, and it's not unusual for contract talks to drag on past the "drop dead" date as the two groups haggle with the city over salaries, incentives and contract minutiae.

If history is any indicator, it could be years before a new contract is in place. Last time around, police and fire deals that expired in 2007 weren't replaced with new ones until 2010. Cops and firefighters worked under the terms of their old deals until new ones were worked out, and the same will happen this time when agreements aren't reached by Saturday night.

The delays can leave city bean counters with sticker shock, however.

The 2010 accords, for instance, forced Mayor Richard Daley's administration to come up with about $160 million to cover back pay increases for police dating to July 2007, and more than $80 million more for retroactive raises for rank-and-file firefighters and paramedics. The city borrowed the money.

The last contracts were set only after an independent arbitrator ruled on a pact for police that set an average of 2 percent raises for five years, dating back to the June 2007 end of that contract. The firefighters union then agreed to the same deal.

This is Mayor Rahm Emanuel's first shot at negotiating with the two public safety unions, and he hasn't been shy about questioning how the city operates even in such politically protected departments as fire and police.

"Safety will be paramount. Savings will also be an issue, and change will be an issue because you cannot say technology hasn't changed and made us all better and smarter at doing what we need to do," the mayor said in February while discussing the upcoming Fire Department contract talks.

One alderman, who did not want his name used while negotiations are ongoing, said Daley seemed more willing to spend city money in the short term to keep the peace with unions. With city finances now hurting, Emanuel is forced to take a harder line.

"The money just isn't there," the alderman said. "I'm sure (the police and fire unions) would like to maintain things, but look around — there are cuts being made all over the place."

Citing a "gentlemen's agreement" with the city not to negotiate in public, Fraternal Order of Police President Michael Shields declined to discuss the status of talks on a new deal.

Firefighters union President Tom Ryan also would not talk about specifics. In a letter to union members in May, Ryan termed the city's offer "horrendous," "insulting" and "ridiculous."

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50 comments:

Anonymous said...

The problem is the city has no money. In fact their debt is in the billions. I say give the cops and firefighters a bump in pay and gut the teachers unions by making them pay in to 401k plans (no more teacher pensions), more employee medical contributions and pay raises are based on kids performance improvements.

If any teacher doesn't like it, they are free to find a new job.

Anonymous said...

Da Alderwhores seez there ain't no money. Really. Reading the papers the last few weeks and find the Evil Racoon has been handing out $millions of TIF money to different companies to build and stay in Chicago. How corrupt is that. And nobody asking any questions about all that money passing around. Been going on for years. There is (was) over $930 MILLION in the TIF accounts collecting interest at connected banks. That is money diverted away from property taxes so the mayor has a big piggy bank to get favors from connected assholes. Fucking corrupt city.

Anonymous said...

Wee dunst needses na stickin contracts!

Anonymous said...

Don't forget the teacher's contract also expired on 30 June. Rahm's trifecta - he gets to screw all 3 of his favorite groups of city workers. The prick.

Anonymous said...

Wino...You were right about Rahm!

YANKEES SUCK!

Anonymous said...

The politicians are good at fucking the police and fire department, but will the cut alderman spots by 50% ??!!

Anonymous said...

how many police../. fireman voted for Rahm ???
Bend over and take it in the ass like a man,, just like the assholes who voted democrat for nobama

Anonymous said...

If salaries are cut employees write the check.

Anonymous said...

I respect the CPD and CFD but you city workers have to realize that EVERYONE has to take it on the chin....we are in the worst recession/depression in our lifetimes....why cant you people figure this out....all you care about is "where's mine" stop whining, be glad you still have jobs that are protected in the cocoon of govt work and MOSTLY protected from the whithering effects of this economic devastation that has created unbelievable hardships for the average citizen - the tax PAYER who works in the private sector...you have no idea how infuriating and ridiculous your bitching sounds to a real tax PAYER. Stop complaining, go to your guaranteed job and stop whining to those who have it MUCH worse than you....

Anonymous said...

When do we start cutting aldermen? after 7 yrs a police or firemen should have the option of moving out of the city!

Anonymous said...

1218 hey jackoff we pay taxes too

Anonymous said...

CUT THE PENSIONS AND SALARY INCREASES I HAVEN'T GOTTEN A RAISE IN FIVE YEARS AND THEY STOPPED CONTRIBUTING TO MY 401K WHICH HAS LOST ALMOST HALF IT VALUE TIME FOR YOU GOVERNMENT WORKERS TO TAKE A CUT NO ONE GETS A PENSION ANYMORE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR!!

Only you can change the world. said...

Rule number one, ACT ALONE tell NOBODY, EVER. Don't say cutesie innuendos at the bar. Plan. Make it quick and decisive. Know the risks. Do it. Shut your mouth. Repeat keep your mouth SHUT. Conscience may bother you on occasion and give you doubt about your actions. Ignore it, it'll pass. Remember you did civilization a solid.

Anonymous said...

We've been without a contract for over 2 1/2 years. Fuckin arbitrator better side with us. Gimme my retro!!!!!

Cicero PD

Anonymous said...

sub-standard service = less money

do your friggin jobs and quit crying you cry babies

try giving the company 8 hours some day

lock up a bad guy

Anonymous said...

U.S. Attorney and Lisa Madigan are jokes. We should as the United Nations for protection from the TIF thefts. It's like The Shah of Iran robbing his own country. Almost a billion sitting in banks? What The Fuck!!! Unions are selling us down the river. I would submit to Chinese occupation if they would promise to guard our money.

Anonymous said...

Go outside and go play hide and go fuck yourself!!!!! 9% of each of my checks is taken out of my checks. That is NOT a guarantee I will see that after dealing with animals for 30 years. Every fucking holiday working...and every family party and function in between. Don't open your filthy sewer unless you have worked a shitty beat in a car that is unsafe and in an unsafe police station where cleaning chemicals makes an officer so sick it kills him. You were the same cock sucker saying why would anybody be the police in the 90's when the economy was booming. Now you are bitching at my so called guaranteed job. Do you worry about getting sued civilly for doing your job correctly....do you worry about getting shot while searching a drug house that is about to cone down on you. Have you been to the funeral of a coworker who you were just talking to and he takes a round to the head by a savage and you have to see his wife pregnant with his unborn child???? Or worry about getting shot an killed while walking to your personal car after working your day at 61 Racine??? Do you worry about someone knocking on your door and telling your loved one that you have been killed while working our guaranteed job. You are a first class and misguided asshole. We deserve every red cent that we fucking earn. Next time jus keep your lint trap shut. That is all. Be safe guys

Anonymous said...

I respect the CPD and CFD but you city workers have to realize that EVERYONE has to take it on the chin....we are in the worst recession/depression in our lifetimes....why cant you people figure this out....all you care about is "where's mine" stop whining, be glad you still have jobs that are protected in the cocoon of govt work and MOSTLY protected from the whithering effects of this economic devastation that has created unbelievable hardships for the average citizen - the tax PAYER who works in the private sector...you have no idea how infuriating and ridiculous your bitching sounds to a real tax PAYER. Stop complaining, go to your guaranteed job and stop whining to those who have it MUCH worse than you....


July 1, 2012 12:18 Pm

Why cant you figure OUT that if there is enough money for the corrupt politicians to continue to line the pockets of their connected friends for silly projects then there is enough money to pay police, fire, and teachers without making them take a pay cut. Just check out the TIF funds.
Also Do you agree with having 50 alder-thieves with million dollar slush funds to do with what they please while getting paid 100000 for a part time gig?
I wonder if the city is still donating 4 or 5 million(dont remember exactly but it was a line item in the previous budgets) a year to Maggie Daleys charity.

WHITE AND RIGHT said...

I have been a Police Officer for 37 years. All I want is what I was promised when I took my oath. NOTHING MORE, NOTHING lESS. The politicians (daly) for one has sold this city out for his family, friends and political hacks for decades. Funny you never hear a word from him now a days. I and the others that have meet our obligations should not suffer because of "THOSE RAT BASTARDS" that put this city where it is financially now. $15,000,000 for Police over time for 4, maybe 5 days PLEASE, who made out on that deal? It's funny (not really) they ALWAYS find $$$$$$ for their special "PET PROJECTS". O yeah, I forgot it's all for the children. THAT LINE HAS GOTTEN VERY, VERY, VERY OLD !!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

DOES. ANYONE REALIZE THIS AMERICAN CONGRESS
HAS NOT PASSED A BUDGET FOR FOUR YEARS NOW.
THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS FUCKED. THINK ABOUT IT.
NO BUDGET, NO CONTRACTS, AND NO MONEY!
THANKS OBUMMER

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Anonymous said...
1218 hey jackoff we pay taxes too

July 1, 2012 2:19 PM

Hey jackoff, as you well know, most of your co-workers are nothing more than a bunch of whining useless dogs lapping at the public trough. To become CPD all you gotta do is pay the alderman. Very few of you got on the department without some kind of clout. You are a massive drain on this city. LAPD does a better job with thousands less officers and with a million more residents than Chicago. Now go get a crying towel for those big fat baby tears you loser crybaby!

Anonymous said...

1239 only time will tell.hutchie moore fan

Anonymous said...

Maybe you should have taken a government job then. Oh, what's that? When the economy was doing well you made too much money to take a government job. Well fuck you faggot.

Anonymous said...

I love getting Screwed!

Bartender Bea

Mark12A said...

They don't have enough cash for cops or firefighters but they can send the LINK card niggers to six flags. Stop feeding and housing them.

Anonymous said...

It has nothing to do with Obama you dumb shit. He doesn't have the power to pass a budget. The house of representatives does. And they don't need him. Pass a budget and if he veto's it override the veto.

Anonymous said...

Hey fuck head, LAPD also has the LA county Sherriff. So before you throw out bullshit facts you should check them.

Anonymous said...

It has nothing to do with Obama you dumb shit. He doesn't have the power to pass a budget. The house of representatives does. And they don't need him. Pass a budget and if he veto's it override the veto.

Reality Again said...

Anonymous said...
Hey fuck head, LAPD also has the LA county Sherriff. So before you throw out bullshit facts you should check them.

July 1, 2012 6:04 PM

Duh. And you got the Cook County Sheriff, another taxdollar-wasting bunch of useless whining clouted-up dogs. And ISP patrolling your expressways. Sniff your own bullshit, dork. Now get back into TR's and slobber on the bar. God, what a bunch of stupid losers. And don't forget to pull that lever for the Democrats! Oh yeah, I forget, whining crybaby CPD don't vote! You DESERVE to get screwed!

I Voted For Obama said...

Obama likes Six Flags.

Anonymous said...

YOU BOTH MAKE GOOD POINTS BUT LET'S
NOT FORGET ALL WORKING WHITE MEN ARE
GETTING FUCKED BY THIS GOVERNMENT

Anonymous said...

AND YOU PROBABLY VOTED FOR HIM
YOU BLEEDING PUSSY FART.
HE IS STILL PART OF THE PROBLEM

Anonymous said...

Found the comment by a poster saying that we are in a really bad recession and everyone has to take it on the "chin". I agree but the connected political fucks and their contributors are not taking any losses. In fact they are reaping $millions while the rest of us scrape by. We have a low life mayor wo is worth more than $20 million from being an "investment banker". Ok. Now what does he have in common with the rest of us? Nothing. Ed Burke is worth $millions. These jagoff poiticians have ripped off this state for $Billions and they want us front line workers to take the blame and suffer the end result. Fuck No!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
1218 hey jackoff we pay taxes too

July 1, 2012 2:19 PM

WHY DONT I GET A PENSION?

Anonymous said...

Fuck you private sector piece of shit! You bastards were too good for public sector jobs when your bonuses were poppin. In 14 years of public sector NO ONE that's right NO ONE who ever pissed and crapped about how I get a pension EVER wanted to DO a public sector job. Anytime the state was hiring and I told people about it I was met with wierd looks, wrinkled up noses and responses usually along the lines of " do I have to go to the South side?".

Anonymous said...

We have a low life mayor wo is worth more than $20 million from being an "investment banker".

SON OF A JEWISH TERRORIST

Anonymous said...

Got to agree with 2:19 post. CPD no longer does the freeways, loop traffic and a lot of assignments that were real Police work. Quit whining. Do you jobs the right way and be proud. CFD is turning into a clown show, sorry to say. Look at the fire scenes, everyone standing around posing for holy pictures while the ladder towers and elevated platforms do the lions share of work. I say privatize. It can be done and a whole lot of money saved.

Anonymous said...

Jews are notoriously tight with money and if any extra money is found it goes right into their bank account. while they cry poor.

Anonymous said...

Shut up JOO boy and stop talking to the troops yours is coming quit now and see the light while you can.

Anonymous said...

Move THERE motherfuker

Next Olympics you can get a gold metal.

All you have to do is be white at SUNDOWN and ALIVE AT SUN UP!

Anonymous said...

Americans can't vote!

Anonymous said...

If you think a Republican won't fuck the cops and firefighters just ask your pals in Wisconsin.

Anonymous said...

I love it when union busters scream that THEY are the REAL taxpayers, as if union members somehow are exempt from paying taxes like anyone else. What a crock of shit.

Anonymous said...

You don't get a pension because you didn't negotiate one into your job. You just decided to let your boss stick it in and break it off, while you try and save up a couple million bucks for your retirement. Good luck with that.

Anonymous said...

No pension? Waahhh waahhh. Quit your job and go get one with benefits. Jealous cuz you can't get one of those jobs? Move to fucking Wisconsin, suck the governor's dick: maybe he'll let you mow his lawn for minimum wage, now that all public employees there are basically slaves with no right to negotiate, just like your sorry ass. But you seem to prefer to not negotiate and just take whatever master gives you, you punk.

Anonymous said...

Know an alderman? Where do you think you are? This is 2012! Our tests are written by law firms with intent on getting minorities to pass and get on. The old Chicago way is long gone. Do some research from your wicker park studio you liberal prick.

Anonymous said...

Chicago Fire Department is the highest trained hardest working department in the world. You are clueless and dense if you think we stand around. While you're in bed sucking your thumb we are up every hour of the night helping those who treat life so carelessly you have to question why you are running into that burning building or trying to resuscitate this gun shot victim who has had a few slugs in him already or the 4am overdose patient you get every other day. Or the yuppie who called cuz they drank too much and "know their rights". I've lost friends and brothers in this job. You are offending a working class full of pride and the biggest damn hearts in the world. Mind your p's and q's because we ARE there when you need us! We kiss our loved ones goodbye every morning hoping to come home the next day. We get to make merry Christmas phone calls and happy thanksgiving texts when we are working away from our families. You have no clue how much we bust our asses for worthless ungrateful pricks like yourself. You are low. Karma is a bitch.

Anonymous said...

None of us did