Friday, February 24, 2012

Courts limits the powers of security officers working as "Cops" in certain areas


Court curbs power of subdivision police
Private forces can't stop and detain drivers, appeals panel says

Former Lombard police commissioner Ken Poris knew to pull over when he saw a vehicle's flashing lights behind him while returning to his home in LaSalle County's Lake Holiday subdivision.

But he quickly realized the person who'd pulled him over, taken his driver's license back to his squad car and written him a speeding ticket wasn't a police officer.

In fact, the man wearing a uniform, duty belt and badge was a homeowners association employee with little police training and no state certification. The security force has been pulling drivers over for years and also boarding boats on the development's man-made lake. But nobody had ever challenged the practice until Poris, a former DuPage County prosecutor, was pulled over.

His case –– a type that lawyers rarely take up because they don't pay — shines a light on what experts say can be a problem with the proliferating private security teams that now patrol large subdivisions, apartment complexes and even a Chicago neighborhood that taxes itself extra to pay for it.

"It's a massive, ad hoc privatization of government services," said Evan McKenzie, a University of Illinois at Chicago associate professor of political science and critic who has written two books on the topic. "That's why you get these weird situations.

"It makes sense to (homeowners groups) from a property-management perspective," he said. "But if you view it another way, the actions of any government are supposed to be limited by concepts of civil liberties. Civil liberties don't always apply here."

An Illinois appeals court in a strongly worded ruling last month found that Lake Holiday's practice of stopping and detaining drivers for violating homeowners association rules was unlawful. The court also found that the association's use of amber-colored flashing lights on its vehicles was unlawful and that the association could be held liable for Poris' false imprisonment claim.

A LaSalle County judge had previously ruled in favor of the homeowners association.

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18 comments:

Anonymous said...

I wouldnt pull over for one of those dumbfucks...I'd yell out the window, "Put it on ISPERN mother fucker!"

Anonymous said...

I saw LEO on the news. He really does have lots of medals. What are they for?

Anonymous said...

Fucking rent a cops, one and all. Suggestion: don't pull over for these wannabes and hope they fuck up and hit your car injuring you. Then sue the shit out for them and the company and everyone else associated with the bullshit and hit the ghetto lottery. Cha-Ching niggas!!!!!

Anonymous said...

The real problem it appears is with the stop and acting like police with flashing lights.

Anonymous said...

Rent a cops. I hate rent a cops, too!

I Voted For Obama said...

Lake Holiday voted for Obama.

Out of the car Motherfucker!!! said...

The yellow light "mall cops" are the bed wetting thumb sucking fuckheads that wash out of the real police academy, Nut fucking cases all of them! Just wait until they puul over some shithead that just robbed or killed someone!! those yellow lights and flashlight will be of no use and no offical record of who you stopped. See ya in the ME's cooler

Anonymous said...

Ken Poris is a pompous bloated ass. Read the appellate court opinion. It's online. The rent-a-cop did everything right and by the book. Furthermore, Poris CHOSE to live there and signed off on the by-laws acknowledging that the security officers could enforce the speed limit in exactly the manner that they did. True, some (many) rent-a-cops are blowhards, but this guy seemed pretty decent, and Poris is an even bigger blowhard.

Anonymous said...

Call 911 if they try to pull you over.

Anonymous said...

This is a real problem, especially in the hood. It pisses me off so much seeing guys wear CPD blue shirts with similar patches, fake badges made to look like CPD/CCSP stars and armed on duty and even extending past their limitations off duty. It has nothing to do with a "power drunk" thing. For me on a few occasions briefly mistook some of these clowns for officers on high-risk scenes. If this is happening to coppers, what about citizens? I think the city/state turning a blind eye to this proliferation of these types of uniforms and badges cheapens the LEOs office and opens the door for abuse by non-LEO employees. I think a line needs to be drawn, not just on the rent-a-cop, but on the security guards.

I'm absolutely fine with them being armed and uniformed, just have them wear uniforms that clearly state "security", patches that don't resemble police uniforms, and name tapes but no badges/stars.

Anyone else feel the same way?

Anonymous said...

Who pulls over for amber lights???

Also why do the security cars at the united center run some kind of stupid blue lights on their vehicles? That has to be illegal. Who do they think they are?

Anonymous said...

hey, wasent that done a few yrs back in 003, just askig.

Anonymous said...

Some of the wannabees have more stuff on their cars than PDs have.They have old squads with MDTs,radar,shotgun and rifle racks.They wear uniforms and gear just like the real police.The average citizen doesnt really look too hard or know the laws.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I wouldnt pull over for one of those dumbfucks...I'd yell out the window, "Put it on ISPERN mother fucker!"

February 24, 2012 8:24 AM

Scary thing is,some of them can.

Anonymous said...

Alot of these types belong to IAP,a phoney wanabee group with a dubious reputation.They ARE NOT real police or hold any State Certification.

http://www.illinoispolicereserves.com/

Anonymous said...

Ken lives in a community of insects, akin to the characters in the movie, 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'.

His neighbors have traded their essential freedoms for the sense of safety which comes from the insect-like structures they've submitted to.


What a pathetic way to live.

Anonymous said...

Funny how the judge suddenly went against the homeowners association once someone in his profession was involved. Chickenshit judge.

Anonymous said...

rent a cop = not a cop.